Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai  (Read 1689 times)

Offline Andyeilio

  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,114
    • View Profile
Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« on: December 17, 2007, 09:27:25 PM »
Hi all,

I have been studying with a club for nearly two years now, and love my training.

However, I have increasingly become concerned with the commercial aspects of some clubs, and the devaluing effect this often has.

Gradings carried out two often, and failures rare, only 20-30 % of the time spent on Karate it questions the integrity of the training/club

So to the root of my question.

Has anyone with SRZ moved from such an organisation?

I currently study shukokai, although I know the two years have not been wasted, I would like to know that most of the skills are transferable, any thoughts.

I would really appreciate your feedback, as moving now seems like quite an upheaval, but I am seriously considering just that.
Logged
Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all

Offline Moley

  • Blind Swordsman
  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,469
    • View Profile
    • http://www.sekiryuzan.org
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2007, 10:51:37 PM »
The rule is that anyone transferring from another "style" keeps their grade and wears their belt.
They study the next grading syllabus up and (WHEN THEY ARE REALLY PREPARED AND READY) they sit that next examination under sensei Kawasoe.

We arrange an external grading examiner like Sensei Kawasoe because this makes it fair..i.e. we don't grade our own students. (anyway even then it wouldn't matter as we are all voluntary, we do it cos we love training, we don't get paid and are not concerned with making money but only with keeping real karate standards)

As for someone who has done this..try Thomas Newman... came from shukukai..Graded 1st kyu by Kawasoe sensei and is currently "going through HELL" in preparation for his shodan grading.

Costs are £2 per evening ( you can do one/two or even all three of the training sessions it's up to you)...if you are ill/away on holiday and don't train then you don't pay. Governing body Licence costs £12
That's it ..end of story.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=karatebangor
« Last Edit: December 18, 2007, 08:36:32 AM by Moley »
Logged
Cryf oedd calon hen y glas glogwyni,
Cryfach oedd ei ebill ef a'i ddur,
Chwyddodd gyfoeth gwr yr aur a'r faenol,
O'i enillion prin a'i amal gur.

Online Lloydie

  • Rider of Rohan
  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,578
    • View Profile
    • http://www.sekiryuzan.org
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2007, 07:38:08 PM »
Quote from: Andyeilio on December 17, 2007, 09:27:25 PM
Hi all,

I have been studying with a club for nearly two years now, and love my training.

However, I have increasingly become concerned with the commercial aspects of some clubs, and the devaluing effect this often has.

Gradings carried out two often, and failures rare, only 20-30 % of the time spent on Karate it questions the integrity of the training/club

So to the root of my question.

Has anyone with SRZ moved from such an organisation?

I currently study shukokai, although I know the two years have not been wasted, I would like to know that most of the skills are transferable, any thoughts.

I would really appreciate your feedback, as moving now seems like quite an upheaval, but I am seriously considering just that.
  Hi, I think you need to decide what you want from your karate training.  If you are unhappy with what you are doing now, then change!  Try different clubs/styles whatever, because it is really important that you find what is right for you.  Try out Seki, if you decide it's not for you - that's OK, just move on.  You'll still be welcome back in the future  :D
Logged
The banker man grows fat
Working man grows thin
It's all happened before
And it'll all happen again

Offline Andyeilio

  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,114
    • View Profile
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2007, 10:14:31 PM »
Moley / Lloydie,

Many thanks for your responses both on and offline.

I have taken your sound advice, and now I have to make the right decision, as you say, for me.

I believe I know what I need/want to do, question is, how long will it take me to make the change, most of us know the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different result, am I insane, we will see.

A few of my club members discussed this on Thursday night, and decided to give some feedback to the senior instructor, there is also a meeting of instructors planned where 1 or 2 with the same concern will raise it, so I have attempted to address my concerns ethically, so, perhaps whilst I visit 1 or 2 clubs, I will have time to see if there is any change.

I have my answer!

Thanks again and regards

Andrew
Logged
Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all

Offline Andyeilio

  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,114
    • View Profile
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 09:38:56 PM »
Just wanted to say that I have made the move, and after two weeks, I am glad that I did.

I can see that my techniques will improve with the new club.

I have stayed within Shukokai for now, but no more McD

I will keep in touch, if I may.

Thanks again Seki.

Heres to Karate, and not the quick buck.
Logged
Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all

Offline Moley

  • Blind Swordsman
  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,469
    • View Profile
    • http://www.sekiryuzan.org
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 09:46:09 PM »
Quote from: Andyeilio on January 25, 2008, 09:38:56 PM

I can see that my techniques will improve with the new club.

Heres to Karate, and not the quick buck.


Osss...excellent..
pop in any night..taste the "SEKI" ..you are now most welcome...no pressure, no hassle..just Karate
Logged
Cryf oedd calon hen y glas glogwyni,
Cryfach oedd ei ebill ef a'i ddur,
Chwyddodd gyfoeth gwr yr aur a'r faenol,
O'i enillion prin a'i amal gur.

Offline Shari

  • Dragonfly
  • Shogun
  • *
  • Posts: 1,770
    • View Profile
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 09:59:39 PM »
 :D Good luck in your new club :D
Logged
Keep Smiling....

Offline Andyeilio

  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,114
    • View Profile
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2008, 09:09:11 PM »
Thanks again.

Will keep in touch.

Logged
Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all

Offline Moley

  • Blind Swordsman
  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,469
    • View Profile
    • http://www.sekiryuzan.org
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2008, 08:05:05 PM »
Really nice Guy turned up Thursday night.. Marcus from Llanfairfechan... a Wado Ryu Karateka...Had the time of his life and really enjoyed himself. I enjoyed watching his rendition of our kata..beautiful...
Hope to see this Guy now on a regular basis..to make friends and exchange experiences.

(P.S. thanks to Dr Nefyn Williams for recommending us)

Logged
Cryf oedd calon hen y glas glogwyni,
Cryfach oedd ei ebill ef a'i ddur,
Chwyddodd gyfoeth gwr yr aur a'r faenol,
O'i enillion prin a'i amal gur.

Offline Andyeilio

  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,114
    • View Profile
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2008, 04:51:17 PM »
Can I pop in and train with you ladies and gents next week?
Logged
Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all

Offline Moley

  • Blind Swordsman
  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,469
    • View Profile
    • http://www.sekiryuzan.org
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2008, 08:02:14 PM »
No problemo - But bear in mind we are currently working on "the importance of the Jiku Ashi and it's role in smooth transference of power with speed."
Whilst doing this we are strengthening our Glutes and working on Zen no Zen.

Logged
Cryf oedd calon hen y glas glogwyni,
Cryfach oedd ei ebill ef a'i ddur,
Chwyddodd gyfoeth gwr yr aur a'r faenol,
O'i enillion prin a'i amal gur.

Offline JimmyTheHoover

  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,635
  • I Used To Kick Like This :(
    • View Profile
    • Routertech - The Site For All Things Networking
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2008, 08:54:44 PM »
Quote from: Moley on March 23, 2008, 08:02:14 PM
No problemo - But bear in mind we are currently working on "the importance of the Jiku Ashi and it's role in smooth transference of power with speed."
Whilst doing this we are strengthening our Glutes and working on Zen no Zen.

...which roughly translates as....

"Expect sore thighs and Butt and not to be able to walk properly next day"  :D
« Last Edit: March 23, 2008, 08:57:09 PM by Lloydie »
Logged
The Longest Journey Begins With A Single Stumble..... ;)

RouterTech.org - The Site for all things Networking !

Spam this e-mail address - we need spam for research:  givemespam99@yahoo.co.uk

Offline Emma

  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 611
    • View Profile
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2008, 08:58:31 PM »
Quote from: JimmyTheHoover on March 23, 2008, 08:54:44 PM
...which roughly translates as....

"Expect sore thighs and Butt and not to be able to alk properly next day"  :D
No,don't listen to him,you'll be thinking so much about how great the training session was, you'll forget about the pain!
Logged
The more you sweat in training the less you bleed in battle,a fool says I can't, a wise man says I'll try.

Offline Andyeilio

  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,114
    • View Profile
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2008, 09:00:47 PM »
Well, sore glutes then, but after my first proper ride on my new bike, I already have a sore but! :lol: I'm sure Jim Carey said that in a film and people took it the wrong way, so if you missed the bit about the bike.......... new bike, not ridden for a while!

Logged
Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all

Offline JimmyTheHoover

  • Shogun
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,635
  • I Used To Kick Like This :(
    • View Profile
    • Routertech - The Site For All Things Networking
Re: Considering transferring from another club, and from Shukokai
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2008, 09:14:43 PM »
Quote from: Emma the Chocoholic on March 23, 2008, 08:58:31 PM
Quote from: JimmyTheHoover on March 23, 2008, 08:54:44 PM
...which roughly translates as....

"Expect sore thighs and Butt and not to be able to alk properly next day"  :D
No,don't listen to him,you'll be thinking so much about how great the training session was, you'll forget about the pain!

LOL - Emma - spoken like a Young'Un   :P
Logged
The Longest Journey Begins With A Single Stumble..... ;)

RouterTech.org - The Site for all things Networking !

Spam this e-mail address - we need spam for research:  givemespam99@yahoo.co.uk
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up