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kihon ippon
« on: July 10, 2008, 08:25:23 PM »
A bit of a dilemma I'm afraid.
Regarding the above subject, are we suppose to allow the opponent to carry out their counter without blocking at all even though they may come with a combination quite aggressively (aggressive doesn't bother me), its my reaction that bothers me in that I tend to try and block after the first counter. I enjoy being in kumite but its important for me personally to act appropriately.
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 08:52:52 PM »
In kihon Ippon, after you have attacked, and your opponent has blocked, he/she then has (what Gwyn calls) a "free shot"  i.e. they counter without you blocking or reacting.  However, it is considered very bad form to connect with the counter.  Mistakes can happen, but the intent should not be to make any significant contact.  As we progress through the different kumite drills, then we get to drills in which you are reacting e.g. nan Demo Sanbon.  The "rules" are then different.

Combination counters are sometimes used by Dan grades, kyu grades should - by and large - stick to the single counter of Kihon ippon, as this develops control.


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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 09:27:51 PM »
Thanks Dave, so the general rule - stay in place until counter has finished be it 1,2,or3 combination?
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 09:29:40 PM »
I keep getting hit in the stomach on counters, but I think its cos someone is trying to tell me im fat  :lol:
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 09:33:05 PM »
don't know about you Liam, but I really had a buzz with tonights training- as Gwyn says WAAHOOO.
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 08:36:42 AM »
Yes for some strange reason I too enjoyed the relentless onslaught dished out to me by the Dan grades

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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 12:45:27 PM »
Quote from: B&D on July 10, 2008, 08:25:23 PM
A bit of a dilemma I'm afraid.
Regarding the above subject, are we suppose to allow the opponent to carry out their counter without blocking at all even though they may come with a combination quite aggressively (aggressive doesn't bother me), its my reaction that bothers me in that I tend to try and block after the first counter.

I enjoy being in kumite but its important for me personally to act appropriately.

(I QUITE ENJOY IT WHEN YOU DO THIS B&D - IT ALLOWS ME TO CARRY ON COUNTERING WITH LOADS OF "OTHER STUFF" GETTING MORE AND MORE AGGRESSIVE -  UNTIL I FINALLY GET YOU !  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: HOWEVER IT'S NOT THE "DONE THING" IN KIHON IPPON...WAIT TILL WE DO FREESTYLE  - Moley)
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 12:57:18 PM »
Freestyle!!!!!!!  :shock: I just about survived in Kihon Ippon last night against the Dan grades, and that's only because they where pulling their punches! I swear to god Shane is a nutter, he should be locked away!
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 01:02:16 PM »
Nice "Save" Liam  :lol:

....in what way "Nutter" ? (Attacking or Defending or both)
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 01:07:35 PM »
Everything. If there was ever anyone brought into this world purely for the purposes of being the ultimate fighting machine, then I'd have to say Shane has a good chance of being that person IMO.

He has that look about him when he fights in karate, like you really are the enemy and you must be destroyed! Im not saying others done adopt the same look when fight an opponent, but Shane just looks genuinely like he wants to cut your life short for you!
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 01:14:10 PM »
...whereas the rest just smile and wink at you I suppose..... :lol:
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 01:39:31 PM »
Like this ?
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 01:40:58 PM »
Or this ?
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 01:52:02 PM »
Look even when he floored Darth Mole Bach it wasnt enough, he still had to go in for the kill! He should be in chains and shackles at all times and only let out of them when inside the Dojo!
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Re: kihon ippon
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2008, 03:53:40 PM »
Quote from: Moley on July 11, 2008, 12:45:27 PM
Quote from: B&D on July 10, 2008, 08:25:23 PM
A bit of a dilemma I'm afraid.
Regarding the above subject, are we suppose to allow the opponent to carry out their counter without blocking at all even though they may come with a combination quite aggressively (aggressive doesn't bother me), its my reaction that bothers me in that I tend to try and block after the first counter.

I enjoy being in kumite but its important for me personally to act appropriately.

(I QUITE ENJOY IT WHEN YOU DO THIS B&D - IT ALLOWS ME TO CARRY ON COUNTERING WITH LOADS OF "OTHER STUFF" GETTING MORE AND MORE AGGRESSIVE -  UNTIL I FINALLY GET YOU !  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: HOWEVER IT'S NOT THE "DONE THING" IN KIHON IPPON...WAIT TILL WE DO FREESTYLE  - Moley)
i'll try and remember this next time I get an empi to the throat with a knee in the groin and a sweep of the leg all at once  :lol: :wink:
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