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Offline FredrikKarlsson

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Sword import?
« on: September 10, 2008, 03:57:51 PM »
Hi,

Ok, since I got asked about Iaito, I cannot stop thinking that I made an unwise descision when I canceled the order :-)
I had my order in at Tozando.. are there other good options, you think? Is the import thing difficult?

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Re: Sword import?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 07:14:24 PM »
The Law in the U.K. is an "ass" (famous quote from someone famous) Fredrik.

Since the passing of the new Law you can now buy cheap crap forged and folded shinken from China legally (because people argue that they are authentic if made in the traditional method)
However
Because Iaito (even though blunt and harmless) are NOT made traditionally...
"You need to be a Martial Artist studying J.S.A. and produce a photocopy of : passport / licence / club membership and club Personal Indemnity insurance to buy one.

Check this one out... Iaito = Licence required  BUT Forged steel Katana = No licence required.
Compare buying shinken and even cheap Ninja $4it to an iaito:

http://www.barringtons-swords.com/

However..if you are ineterested and can take it back into Sweden

I have an Iaito for sale. Steel iaito NOT ALLOY !   Paul Chen Nami (Wave) Iaito
Brand new 75 cm blade tsuba to kissaki (2.45 shaku ??)
Willing to sell for £170
try before you buy.

Moley

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Re: Sword import?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2008, 09:21:28 AM »
Ha ha, this is sooo stupid. I'm sorry, I just had to send this information to my Iaido friends back home.
I think that my home country's position as maker of the most stupid rules and regulations is seriously threatened, ha ha.
Do you know (and sorry for going on about this Tom) that we used to have a ban (up until last year, I think) specifically aimed at pro boxing? K1 - sure, you can do that. MMA - sure, you can do that. But.. pro boxing.. NOOO!

Also, there is still a ban on teaching Nunchaku in Sweden. An inheritence from the 70's Ninja movie era, combined with an instance of panic from the conservatives, we think. So, teaching Kenjutsu (sword fights), Kama, Sai, Kon (Bo), Tonfa, Tenchu (spiked knuckle guards), Eku (a great big fighting oar), throwing Shuriken, the Sai spear, shooting things with the Bow... e.t.c. is allowed, as long as you don't say anything about the Nunchaku. How's that for a silly rule... :-)

About the Iaito. Yes, I would be very interested. I just have to check that I can acctually bring it into my home country when I go back... but I'll let you know soon. Love to try it though.

(And Alun, yes.. I know Sanshin.. or at least I used to know it.. My memory just wasn't working last night.. and it was a long time since I did it. Google Sensei reminded me :-) ).

/Fredrik

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Re: Sword import?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2008, 12:46:08 PM »
My favourite 'Swedish madness' story is when the armies of Europe were changing their rifles to 5.56mm ammunition. Sweden campaigned to changing the rifling of the barrels to a tighter twist in order to "to reduce the inhumane terminal effects". It seems the Swedish army were meant to shoot people - but not hurt them too much!
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Re: Sword import?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2008, 12:52:38 PM »
Nope, swords are not a problem to bring into Sweden, so I would be very interested in trying it out.

Again, if this had been Nunchaku (or as a literal translation of the Swedish law text would say, karate-sticks :-) ) or a knife with a 10 cm blade which disappears into the handle, it would have been a totally different issue.
Those are dangerous items, ha ha.

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Re: Sword import?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2008, 01:04:39 PM »
Quote from: Huw on September 12, 2008, 12:46:08 PM
My favourite 'Swedish madness' story is when the armies of Europe were changing their rifles to 5.56mm ammunition. Sweden campaigned to changing the rifling of the barrels to a tighter twist in order to "to reduce the inhumane terminal effects". It seems the Swedish army were meant to shoot people - but not hurt them too much!

Hmmm, yes.. The swedish military problem. I think that our quite successful weapons industry still is not allowed to export weapons systems to countries currently in a conflict. Exporting to one that is buying masses of weapons because they are about to go into a conflict is ok.. and to coutries in close affiliation with a coutry which is in conflict (and which therefore is very likelly to sell it to the country which is desperate to use it) is also ok.
But just not to the coutry itself. One really wonders if the law-makers acctually think that this rule has any effect at all.
It's probably there just for the government officials to be able to sleep better at night after collecting the profit from the sale.

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