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« on: June 05, 2009, 10:32:54 am »

Firstly watch this video...
(My question is to do with timing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mROmINxdhrk

What do you think of the timing for the series of techniques after the 3 teishos?

In the video Kanazawa pauses at the first cross block (in John Van Weenen's book it's called 'jodan juji uke').
Why do you think there is a pause here?

In my opinion, the timing for this sequence is cross block - double gedanbarrai fast transition, A SHORT PAUSE, cross block - mountain stance (or yama kakiwake as it is called in John Van Weenen's book) fast transition.

Do you think the difference is timing is simply that, or does it show an underlying difference in bunkai?
I think I might be making a mountain out of a molehill but I'm just interested to know the motivation behind the different timing.

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2009, 10:54:39 am »

TBH - although I think that Sensei Kanazawa is a great technician I never use his vids. for any Kata work - SKI versions and timings/tempo can be very different from other Shotokan based Orgs.

Don't forget that

a) Sensei Kanazawa added Mawashi-Geri to Enpi !

b) Has Gojushiho-Sho and Dai the opposite way round to "Us" - as in Dai is Sho and vice versa.

I also think that most of the Kata vids you see performed by the Japanese Sensei (at least in their i"Instructional" material) pay no attention to the "real" tempo/timing of the Kata - if you want to see it you need to find some Competition Clips I think.

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2009, 11:28:02 am »

In the video Kanazawa pauses at the first cross block (in John Van Weenen's book it's called 'jodan juji uke').
Why do you think there is a pause here?

I can tell you that Naito Sensei was teaching this timing in Edinburgh two years ago. Don't know why though!
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2009, 11:54:43 am »

Firstly watch this video...
(My question is to do with timing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mROmINxdhrk

What do you think of the timing for the series of techniques after the 3 teishos?

In the video Kanazawa pauses at the first cross block (in John Van Weenen's book it's called 'jodan juji uke').
Why do you think there is a pause here?

In my opinion, the timing for this sequence is cross block - double gedanbarrai fast transition, A SHORT PAUSE, cross block - mountain stance (or yama kakiwake as it is called in John Van Weenen's book) fast transition.

Do you think the difference is timing is simply that, or does it show an underlying difference in bunkai?
I think I might be making a mountain out of a molehill but I'm just interested to know the motivation behind the different timing.

Manon.
maybe emphasizing the need for a strong technique/kime here??? keep doing what you ve been doing - It fits with the old JKA katas-don't think about trying to change things at this stage before the grading  manon. After- you can think about it!
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2009, 03:57:45 pm »

Oki doki  Smile
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2009, 07:05:38 pm »

keep doing what you ve been doing - After- you can think about it!

Nuff said, thanks Siw.
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