Topic: The Dojo Kun

[Andyeilio]

I have searched the Seki site, briefly, and could not find the dojo kun, I found a version on wikipedia, but I dont know if the text /  translation is corect

Can someone confirm please. and if this is incorrect, post the correct version, also, I have no idea of the prunounciation.

Can anyone help?

thanks

andy

  1
    一、人格完成に努むること

        hitotsu, jinkaku kansei ni tsutomuru koto

 Each person must strive for the completion of one's character

2
    一、誠の道を守ること

        hitotsu, makoto no michi wo mamoru koto

Each person must be faithful and protect the way of truth

3

    一、努力の精神を養うこと

        hitotsu, doryōku no seishin wo yashinau koto

Each person must endeavour (fostering the spirit of effort)

4

    一、礼儀を重んずること

        hitotsu, reigi wo omonzuru koto

 Each person must respect others and the rules of etiquette

5

    一、血気の勇を戒むること

 hitotsu, kekki no yÅ« wo imashimuru koto

Each person must refrain from violent behavior (guard against impetuous courage)

[Moley]

http://www.clubs.psu.edu/up/shotokan/dojokun.html

the wo is actually O

Click on the listen in Japanese part

[Andyeilio]

http://www.clubs.psu.edu/up/shotokan/dojokun.html

the wo is actually O

Click on the listen in Japanese part

Wow, that was quick, thanks Gwyn

[Moley]

My favourite is the last one.

"Refrain from violent behaviour"

[JimmyTheHoover]

Exert Oneself In Perfection of Character

Be Faithfull and Sincere

Respect Propriety

Cultivate a Spirit of Perseverance

Refrain from Impetuous and Violent Behaviour



Jim

[Lloydie]

I always liked this interpretation:

Strive to complete your character
Protect the paths of truth
Foster a spirit of effort
Respect the principles of etiquette
Guard against impetuous courage

I once asked a Japanese friend of mine if he thought these were a reasonable translation of meaning (he was a professor of english) he said "yeah - sounds OK to me"   

[KeithH]

Would there be a problem saying the Dojo Kun in English and Welsh?  I remember a few years ago following an assembly at school a year seven pupil coming up to me and asked, 'what's a beethi'?  I was wondering what he was on about and then he went on, 'you know sir, hallowed beethi name! The next few minutes were spent explaining that it was old english; hallowed for holy and thy instead of yours.
The Lord's prayer had no value to him because he couldn't understand!  My point is, if we recited the Dojo Kun in English and Welsh then everybody will understand it and be in a position contemplate its values.

[JimmyTheHoover]

Would there be a problem saying the Dojo Kun in English and Welsh?  I remember a few years ago following an assembly at school a year seven pupil coming up to me and asked, 'what's a beethi'?  I was wondering what he was on about and then he went on, 'you know sir, hallowed beethi name! The next few minutes were spent explaining that it was old english; hallowed for holy and thy instead of yours.
The Lord's prayer had no value to him because he couldn't understand!  My point is, if we recited the Dojo Kun in English and Welsh then everybody will understand it and be in a position contemplate its values.

If anything surely it should be Japanese and Welsh ?

...so do all the techniques get called out "multilingually" at the moment then ?

Give all Students a printed handout of it in all three languages - just say it in Japanese - after all - Traditional Karate and "All That"

FWIW - we don't even use it anymore in our Club - which saddens me somehwat - and you don't even hear it on the Courses or Summer Camps 

Jim