Topic: Weight training for Karate

[Tryfan]

I think it would be pretty dumb of anyone to argue the case that proper thought out weight training would not benefit the karateka.  I agree with Susan here, there is way too much bull**** in karate and martial arts in general. All this samuraii spirit and ki rubbish is, I think, best kept in comics.  Karate is hard enough as it is, without delving into the realms of fantasy and mystical powers.  Keep to what you can see and feel.

Guy B's problem seems to be a motivational one.  To succeed at anything, be it sport, academia or whatever, means that you have to make sacrifices and do the "boring stuff".  If you are not willing to make these sacrifices, then perhaps you lack the "mental toughness" required??

[GuyB]

Ah, now you're just fishing

[Moley]

Tryfan !
I remember you when you were a Guy B.

RESPECT... I know what you have achieved and how far you have come.
Remember that kumite final ?

You have so much to offer !
Start your own club . Get the respect you deserve and produce more "Real" karateka. Help get the UKTKF going again.

Ohhh and let me alone to change Guy B into a "MONSTER"

[Tryfan]

You are wise Moley!  No offence to Guy B, don't even know him, just going by his postings.  By the way I never go to the gym, he's right, too boring.  I just go running instead.  Oh, and plenty of Jiyu Ippon!!

Guy B, if Moley's half as helpful to you as he was to me, you'll be fine.

[jonsey]

old topic i know - but something i wanted to share some thoughts on

i remember hearing a long time ago that to be succesful in any martial arts you need the five s  (i wish i could remember where i heard this - may of been one of the books i have read or a magazine...)

speed - comes from running/cycling and even from speed orientated weight training and MA trainig
stamina - comes fomr any endurance CV training - which can include intensive MA training
Supplness - comes from stratching and any form of ma training which will force your limbs to move in unatural ways (high kicking for example)
skill - obviously comes from repeted, hard dedicated training
strength - there are many ways to get stronger but without a doubt resistance training is the most effective - i.e. weight training

yes some find it boring, others dont - but you will gain from it never the less! as long as you ensure you dont loose any speed or supplness while doing it. Weight mixed in with running or cycling are good supplemental training to any MA routine, and well worth doing if you have the time. if you find it boring take a MP3 player with you - or even have a training partenr to talk to.

i also noted people dismissing the spiritial aspects of MA training ("ki") i will agree some martial arts take it wayyyy over the top (an akido class i have been to for example will have 30 minutes of spiritual training wihch is meditation and reading out of a book) but again to be well balanced it is said you need to work on mind,body and spirit - dont disregard any aspect of any martial art you want to do, you will then never be complete - just dont go nuts on the stupider stuff ( i remember training with one guy who was waaaaay ott with this stuff we were in the class doing a 2 man training drill and he instisted on opening all the doors and windows so he could feel the chi flowing better - weird stuff)

anyhow my 2 cents worth

[Emma]

old topic i know - but something i wanted to share some thoughts on
i remember hearing a long time ago that to be succesful in any martial arts you need the five s  (i wish i could remember where i heard this - may of been one of the books i have read or a magazine...)

Shouldn't there be 6?Spirit.

[Emma]

Sorry I've just read the full post and realized you talk about spirit anyway.
The sun is messing with my head,I can't read properly!

[jonsey]

ayye - but im of the opinion spirit is not somethign you train, but is a byproduct of your training, the best explenation i have seen on it is during a description of heijo shin - where it says you can not train to develop heijo shin, but only train the components necessary to develop it.

it comes down to the old Mind boy spirit triange, by developing your body through repititious training, through developing your mind through learning and understanding - your spirit in turn will develop.