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Offline Shari

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« on: September 25, 2005, 09:49:12 AM »
:D I can,t believe i am on the nerdy page and about to ask a question, be very kind and in good old english please.

I have had enough with Tesco.net it is really slow, we are thinking of going on broadband Tesco again it seems really good 512k no limits for £17-97 per month. What sort of protection do we need(not condoms) we have AVG at the moment, what is a firewall do we already have it with AVG. :)
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2005, 10:50:31 AM »
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rather than go through the explanation it is easier to give you some sites that do :
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/f/firewall.html

http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=ybr_bt&y=y&p=what%20is%20a%20firewall

The AVG program is an anti-virus program which depending on your internet use is probaly suffiecient for your needs. ie If you are like myself or Huw and leave it on 24/7 then you will need a firewall - if you use it to visit hacking, or other dodgy sites then again you will need one. If you are a casual user who surfs then switches off after using then chances are that you will be ok.

If you are running Windows XP (Service Pack 2) then this does have basic firewall functionality which you should think about enabling.

To see whether you have it installed, click on your 'START' button then select 'RUN' now type in 'WINVER' - press the 'ENTER' or 'RETURN' key

It will pop up with your windows version and service pack number. let me know if you need a newer one (Service pack) and i will bring it on disk.

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2005, 11:10:14 AM »
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A firewall is a piece of software that constantly looks at the network (or internet) traffic coming from and entering your PC. The firewall basically tries to block data leaving your PC that you don't want to. This has the added bonus of making your PC hard to 'see' by any would be attackers on the internet. Typically, firewalls achieve this fairly simply by keeping a record of programs and protocols that the user has 'authorised' to access the internet on that computer.

Its generally acepted these days that a complete internet security solution comprises both a firewall and antivirus component.

I've tried several security solutions at home - including using big, all-in-one security suites like Norton IS and Zonealarm. I've found that most of these are massive 'system hogs' (slow your computer down to a crawl - not good if you plan on fragging other 1337's :twisted:). Worse still, having too much security software on board can be counterproductive.. i've even seen two different peices of security software falsly detect each other as a virus! What me, and most of the Nurdz I know tend to do is to keep windows XP up to date, and let it sort out the security for you.

XP only thinks its secure if its got both firewall and antivirus software running on the PC. As of service pack 2 onward, XP really really nags you about security by default. Basically it puts a red shield icon on the toolbar that doesn't go away until your computer is sufficiently protected. Furthermore, clicking on the shield starts a security wizard that helps you simply and quickly configure your PC to be safe.

The firewall component is already part of windows XP, so thats easy to set up. What you need to do then is sort out a third party antivirus solution. XP SP2 actually recommends several of these and even guides you through the install. Personally, I recommend something fairly lightweight for home use, like EZ antivirus or NOD antivirus. As well as being less of a burden on your system, these tend to have the advantage of much lower cost (I think they're free for the first 12 months).  

Basically then, when you get your broadband.. update XP to SP2 (if its not already), make sure all the security alerts are active in windows, and if its complaining about there being no antivirus software, follow along to install something appropriate. If you already have antivirus installed and running, that isn't being detected by XP, you can, at your own risk, tell XP that you are going to monitor your antivirus solution yourself. XP will still handle the firewall as before.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2005, 12:24:16 PM »
Which version of windows are you using Shari? I can't remember if you have 98 or XP. :oops:

I agree with both GuyB and Julian in their assessment - keep XP up to date, turn on the firewall and get an up to date anti-virus.

Another recommendation is to stop using Outlook Express and Internet Explorer. They are both full to the brim of security flaws that can be exploited despite any firewall or anti-virus you may have installed.

I use Thunderbird and Firefox (free downloads from http://www.mozilla.org/) and both are substantially better than the Microsoft offerings.

I can burn you a disk with XP Service Pack 2, AVG 7 free edition, Thunderbird and Firefox if you want.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2005, 06:05:29 PM »
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Another recommendation is to stop using Outlook Express and Internet Explorer. They are both full to the brim of security flaws that can be exploited despite any firewall or anti-virus you may have installed.


VERY true.. and the mozilla alternatives Huw suggested are actually much nicer to use too! BUT, if your PC/laptop is a bit old and slow, it may take a little longer for things to happen when using Mozilla firefox.. its a bit 'heavier' than windows explorer. Although it automatically updates itself on a pretty regular basis.. I find its also a bit less stable. Lets face it though, its easy to live with your internet browser occasionally crashing out on you if it means better security!

This Nurdz corner is a gr8 idea Huw.. i'm surprised you didn't think of it before!
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2005, 07:50:12 PM »
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it may take a little longer for things to happen when using Mozilla firefox.. its a bit 'heavier' than windows explorer.

The only reason that it's 'heavier' then IE is that Microsoft built many of IE's key components into Windows.

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I find its also a bit less stable. Lets face it though, its easy to live with your internet browser occasionally crashing out on you if it means better security!

I agree it does crash a bit but nothing too bad and it's getting better with every update. But compared to IE it's brilliant.  :D
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2005, 09:34:32 AM »
Im on broadband and use Demon.net as my ISP.

2mb unlimited connection for £19.99 a month. Handy for internet gaming  :twisted:
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2005, 09:41:34 AM »
I'm about to 'go Demon' as well. Their SOHO connection for £23.99 pm is spot on for me.

If your signing up for broadband please consider avoiding both Onetel and Pipex. They're both fine when things are working - but when things go wrong their support and customer care is nothing short of shocking.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2005, 10:41:44 AM »
Who wants a copy of my software CD then? Jewels and Mole Bach already on the list - anyone else?

I'll also draw up a list of things to do when you rebuild or update your PC - might be of some use to someone.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2005, 11:23:07 AM »
I've been with Tiscali now for a number of years (since they took over lineone) and have found them really helpful and accessable.  Everytime that I've had a problem, their technical help staff are great, because they do'nt treat me like a computer programmer, and they'll talk you through the stages a step at a time.

I'm with their broadband package at £19.99 p/m 2mb unlimited package and I do'nt pay for the connection.

It's good enough for what I need, I do'nt download music etc, only mpgs and the other one (ca'nt remeber what it's called...win something) and it's pretty fast 2.3 (something per sec).

Mrs MB thinks it's the dog's parts since she can shop online without loosing connection (like dial up)  :evil:  :(  :x .
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2005, 11:55:46 AM »
Sounds great, yes please Huw. BTW the gi's were great, do you want one back? i'll bring Eva's little one for M.B.

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2005, 12:45:11 PM »
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Sounds great, yes please Huw.

No problem Jewels


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BTW the gi's were great, do you want one back? i'll bring Eva's little one for M.B.

Bring back what you don't need. I'm sure they can be 'recycled' some how.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2005, 03:04:40 PM »
:D Huw can we arrange a day when you can up grade my pc, will you need to do it here.
  i really need to get broadband. I have a disc from tesco to do with broadband when i up grade they will send a modem to me.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2005, 03:09:56 PM »
OK np. This is probably a good time to upgrade to Windows XP as well. How much RAM does your system have?
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2005, 03:14:22 PM »
:D NO IDEA

RAM ?  (rest a minute)
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