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Offline Huw

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120 hours ...
« on: August 08, 2006, 10:35:05 AM »
Just browsing the net (to avoid working) I came across this on the UK Tang Soo Do website ...

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Grading 1st Gup to 1st Dan

Promotional Requirements for 1st to1st Dan (Midnight Blue Belt):
Candidates’ Basic Requirements.

To qualify for grading, candidates must have attended class at an officially recognised ITSDF club for a period of not less than one hundred and twenty one-hour sessions prior to the grading.

120 hours from scratch to 1st Dan ...  :shock:  :shock: OK I know it's easy to be elitist about these things but that does seem to be an incredibly short minimum period. Even McDojos require more (and a large cheque of course ;-))!! Even just doing 2 hours a week you could theoretically pass Shodan in 15 months!!

Apart from buying one off EBay is anyone aware of a shorter way to a Dan grade?
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2006, 03:21:09 PM »
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(Midnight Blue Belt)
LOL!!!

What are the other colour progressions?  Mustard Yellow? Titanium White? Azzy Green  :D

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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2006, 03:52:31 PM »
Quote from: Lloydie on August 08, 2006, 03:21:09 PM
Azzy Green  :D

Shouldn't that be Shane Green in honour of last years antics :-)
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2006, 04:39:22 PM »
Quote from: Huw on August 08, 2006, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Lloydie on August 08, 2006, 03:21:09 PM
Azzy Green  :D

Shouldn't that be Shane Green in honour of last years antics :-)

Nahhhh Shane wasn't half as "PRODUCTIVE" as AZZY ! :-00 :-00 :-00 :-00 :-00
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2006, 07:23:44 PM »
I take it that 1st Gup is beginner ?  :?
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2006, 07:34:48 PM »
Yes. Gup seems to be the equivilent of kyu. Full details here ... http://www.uktsdf.org.uk/gradings/gradings.htm
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2006, 08:02:54 PM »
Quote from: Huw on August 08, 2006, 07:34:48 PM
Yes. Gup seems to be the equivilent of kyu. Full details here ... http://www.uktsdf.org.uk/gradings/gradings.htm

From the syllabus listings it looks more like 10th Gup is a beginner  :P
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2006, 08:08:18 PM »
Sorry Jim, I seem to have missread your previous posting. Yes your right, 10th is beginner.
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2006, 08:10:29 PM »
Quote from: Huw on August 08, 2006, 08:08:18 PM
Sorry Jim, I seem to have missread your previous posting. Yes your right, 10th is beginner.

No Probs. - so 120 hours from second brown to black isn't too shoddy then I guess - guess I'll stick with Shotokan when I get back to training on Saturday  :lol:
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2006, 08:59:12 PM »
I think not.

The 9th to 8th Gup grading requires training "for a period of not less than twenty one-hour sessions prior to the grading". The 6th to 5th Gup requires "must have attended class at an officially recognised ITSDF club for a period of not less than thirty one-hour sessions prior to the grading". A minimum accumulation of hours up to certain grades - not between grades. My reading is that it's 120 hours minimum accumulated hours from 10th Gup to 1st Dan.
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2006, 04:06:06 PM »
Hi - the mystery is solved  :)

...I emailed the site contact and he has confirmed that the training times quoted are indeed the minimum training times BETWEEN each grade and this does increase as you move through the grades so the 120 hours is NOT the cumulative total training time from beginner to Black Belt - quite right too IMO  8)
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Re: 120 hours ...
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2006, 08:30:24 PM »
Nice move JTH. It's a shame they didn't make that more clear on the website  :? Sounds a fair bit more reasonable now.
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