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Offline Makoto

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Tento Rule
« on: December 11, 2006, 01:33:21 PM »
I assume UTKF has the tento rule in kumite. If not, just forget about this post already. lol

I was wondering how do people here train for this situation. To be specific, what techniques do you find work for you when your heels are on the jogai line? And what works best for you when you are the guy that has the upper hand?

I have been fooling around with this one. In the past when I have been swept and had tento, I just used to hold my ground, block whatever and punch at the same time.

I am now fooling around with some evading moves. For example, attackers throws are right front kick. I move my left side forward and to my right. While punching to his face. My punch looks like a cross between a left from hook and a kake zuki from heian godan. I find if my timing is on, I can evade the kick before it lands. But it is not easy.

I will stop there. I have a few others, but if you guys do not do the tento rule then, there is no point.

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Re: Tento Rule
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 04:57:11 PM »
I assume UTKF has the tento rule in kumite.

Yes the UKTKF does have the tento rule. However we (here in Seki) only do one competition per year so may of us don't know much about 'unusual' stuff like tento. Maybe Moley or Mowll Bach will comment on their own experiences.

The evading move you mentioned seems to me to be a good idea. I've seen something similar in a video of a Japanese Sensei. He was using far more 'circular' movements than we are used to. I'll post again when I remember who was in the vid! Very effective though.
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Re: Tento Rule
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 05:00:10 PM »
CAn someone please explain the UKTKF definition of the Tento Rule ?  :?
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Re: Tento Rule
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 05:02:25 PM »
Jim, I think the rules are secret ... ;-)
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Re: Tento Rule
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 05:05:34 PM »
Jim, I think the rules are secret ... ;-)


LOL  :lol: ...I know that the reasons behind judges decisions are mysterious.....

....but seriously.....  :?
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Re: Tento Rule
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 07:00:10 PM »
Ok here goes,
Ten-to (fall)
In the case where a competitor falls (makes contact with the floor with other than feet, arms or hands) but a point scoring technique is not given nor received, a Ten-to penalty shall be applied.  A fall may be self-induced or caused by the opponent.
The Ten-to penalty shall consist of the movement backward of the penalized contestant from the original mid-court position to a place just inside the court boundary line (where the heel just touches the line) from which the match shall resume.  The opponent shall then move to occupy the original possition of the penalized contestant prior to the application of the penalty i.e. the one who's fallen goes to the edge and the other one goes to the fallen fellow's starting line facing each other.
Now then, when the match is re-started, the attacker has 10 seconds to launch an attack, the other one (the one who fell) must wait untill the other one attacks.  if he pre-empts and moves, he is now Jyo-gai (out of area) and the match re-starts as normal, if he moves back, again he is Jyo-gai, so he (or she ooops) is at a disadvantage.  Should the attacker decide not to move, then after the time up, the match is stoped and re-started without awarding penalties.

Hope that clears it up for you Jimmy. :shock: :-k :-s :? :?

Makoto,
Yes we do have these rules for UKTKF, we are after all ITKF under Nishiama Sensei.  As for practising a get out clause for this, I really can't recomend anything that would honestly work.  Every situation and fighter has their own favorite technique, some of which go out of the window once adrenaline kicks in, all I can recommend  is that you practice a sort of circular sabaki.....but there's no guarantee that this will work either.  In all the years competing and refereeing, I have only seen someone evade it a couple of times, luck???
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Re: Tento Rule
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 09:09:03 PM »
Thanks MB very clear and concise - just one question - can the opponent who's under Tento move as soon a the other contestant moves or must he wait for the attacker to get his distance and then launch the attack... :? I'm guessing that he has to wait - a bit like jyu-ippon but without being allowed to adjust the distance.... :?:
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Re: Tento Rule
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 09:18:34 PM »
Nope... as soon as attacker moves.. defender High tails it...

I don't like the Tento rule... I would rather the Ref waits for the one still standing to "STOMP" on the fallen adversary's head... Then a clear and well deserved POINT could be awarded.
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Re: Tento Rule
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2006, 07:58:04 PM »
Then a clear and well deserved POINT could be awarded.

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